# MK6 Rline Steering wheel



## fookerbob (Nov 29, 2005)

Like the title states, I am interested in putting in an R-line steering wheel from the R20/Rocco. I have a 2.0T DSG and was wondering if I could add the paddles. I know that the steering wheel is offered with the paddles but will it work on my CC. 

:beer:


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## Veedubin02 (Mar 26, 2002)

Any reason why you wouldn't just buy the CC R-Line wheel with paddles?


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## fookerbob (Nov 29, 2005)

Veedubin02 said:


> Any reason why you wouldn't just buy the CC R-Line wheel with paddles?


 
No reason at all, actually I might just buy the CC R-Line one. I pretty much want to know if I need to get a new harness or something to that extent.


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## adibaiz (Feb 11, 2005)

I just bought an MK6 Golf/GTI steering wheel yesterday from ebay.de but not the R-line(since i don't have a CC R-line)....can't wait to get it to put it on. Will post pictures. 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....UCI%2BUCC&otn=5&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1348


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## JHolmes (May 14, 2010)

That being said. Where can I get an R-line steering wheel with paddles? That'd be the bees knees...


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## adibaiz (Feb 11, 2005)

ebay.de or ebay.co.uk


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## cosmic_beetle (May 25, 2003)

does the current airbag work with the rline wheel? 

thanks! 

~ Jess 

PS: Definitely want the coding. I have an .:R32 (MkV) and the CC... drives me nuts reaching for paddles that aint there LOL


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## jay360o (Aug 5, 2004)

Just wondering will this fit your steering wheel? 

and I don't understand German 

What words means air bag included? 

Thanks


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## adibaiz (Feb 11, 2005)

Here's a link to an auction on ebay.de 

http://cgi.ebay.com/VW-Golf-5-V-6-V...Item&pt=Autoteile_Zubehör&hash=item19bceb530a


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## Veedubin02 (Mar 26, 2002)

Take the ebay URL and plug it into google translate to find out what it says.


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## RafaGolfBr (Dec 17, 2001)

dcdubbin202 said:


> Jess, it does not. You need a different airbag. Most wheel auctions I've seen on eBay have the airbag.
> 
> I couldn't bring myself to get a CC without paddles coming from my .:R. I just changed the wheel for cosmetic reasons.


any help on what coding need to be changed, just the numerical ones (DSG + MF + cruise and etc??) or is tehre anything else to check off??


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## RafaGolfBr (Dec 17, 2001)

My wheel came with airbag, weird is that even thou I have replaced steering wheels before (mkiv and B6 passats) when releasing the clip on the bag, the airbag does not wnat to come off... should I force it?? or is it any other clip/thing holding it that I should be aware of?
EDIT:
nevermind..... just brute force :laugh:


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## adibaiz (Feb 11, 2005)

Ra***olfBr said:


> My wheel came with airbag, weird is that even thou I have replaced steering wheels before (mkiv and B6 passats) when releasing the clip on the bag, the airbag does not wnat to come off... should I force it?? or is it any other clip/thing holding it that I should be aware of?
> EDIT:
> nevermind..... just brute force :laugh:


Pictures please......i can't believe mine is still stuck in customs for 12 days already


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## Veedubin02 (Mar 26, 2002)

adibaiz said:


> Pictures please......i can't believe mine is still stuck in customs for 12 days already


That sucks, let us know when you get it, I'd like to know how good it all looks before I order one.


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## Veedubin02 (Mar 26, 2002)

I want to see the ones that ebay seller is selling to make sure its all legit before I drop the money on it. Didn't I drive your car with yours installed?


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## adibaiz (Feb 11, 2005)

dcdubbin202 said:


> Yes you did. I had to wipe some drool off of the wheel afterward. Luckily it was raining.
> 
> I bought mine off eBay from a seller in Portugal I think. Turned out fine. :thumbup:


My ebay seller is from Portugal too and i ordered with grey stitching just did not get it yet....talked to somebody in customs...it can take as long as 30-45 days before they release it and may even be sent back if they need additional info from the seller and they don't receive what they want....

Update: My mail man just showed up today with my steering wheel!!!
Will install today and post pictures...looks very nice with the grey stitching!


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## RafaGolfBr (Dec 17, 2001)

Got mine from portugal in less than 7 days, its already installed :thumbup:
Got the version with DSG paddles, enabled it with vag-com and it works like a charm.


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## piperpilot964 (Aug 25, 2009)

how hard was the install?


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## RafaGolfBr (Dec 17, 2001)

dcdubbin202 said:


> I'm such a trendsetter.
> I'd love to see pics of it installed adi and rafa. It really is a worthwhile mod.


yes you are! 
Def. the steering wheel upgrade is a worthwhile mod. 

- on my old my MKIV Golf, I installed a Gti steering wheel and got rid of the "plastic" golf one. Night and day.
-on my B6 Passat I had a custom wrap done, perforated leather and blue suede top/bottom. 
-MKV R32, great wheel, I did not touch that one. 
and now this one... makes me NOT miss my old R32 at all now. (ok, maybe the awd handling!)

Install is not hard, a bit harder than the previous ones I did due to the fact that the clips are different.

But basically:
.:.:.NOTE BEFORE YOU DISCONNECT THE AIRBAG, REMOVE KEY FROM IGNITION AND REMOVE BOTH TERMINALS FROM THE BATTERY...:.

Turn steering wheel 90* to one side, stick a flahead screw driver and lift the metal clip. Pull on the airbag. turn it the other way and do the same (will take time, but after you get the first one done, you'll know how to get the other one out). (do not undo the airbag harness yet)
- make the wheel straight again (do not undo the airbag harness yet) so you'll be able to install the new one correctly
- disconnect battery
- undo the airbag MF harness. 
- Use a triple square driver cant remember the size (or a #9 Alen key, big one) to remove the stering wheel bolt. Make a mark on it using a sharpie or nail polish since the bolt can only be used 3 times. 

- Install the new one in reverse order. re-connect the battery. 
- You'll have a steering wheel light on the dash and another one, ITS NORMAL.. just drive it for a bit and the sensor will do a basic setting again. If you have vag-com you may do an adaptation when you enable the multifunktion/DSG paddles (under steering wheel, where it mine said 7, I input a 8, you'll have a "drop-down" menu, you need to match what you have + tiptronic).


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## JHolmes (May 14, 2010)

Info on these Portugal sellers?


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## adibaiz (Feb 11, 2005)

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/almascs/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340

This is the guy that i bought from.


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## adibaiz (Feb 11, 2005)

Here is mine with gray stitching.


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## fookerbob (Nov 29, 2005)

damn, thats looking really nice guys


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## M3Tech (Jan 26, 2007)

... really nice. :thumbup:


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## Veedubin02 (Mar 26, 2002)

Glad to see you got yours from customs, I'll probably order one in the next month or so.


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## Punch Dub (Mar 1, 2010)

I'm leaning that way too.
Just need to find a vagcom'r around here...


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## piperpilot964 (Aug 25, 2009)

so the wheel for the Sirrocco, R32 and Golf are all the same as the CC? It will fot for sure?
VW GOLF 5 V 6 VI R32 SCIROCCO STEERING WHEEL GT


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## Tekniec (Aug 13, 2005)

Ra***olfBr said:


> Got mine from portugal in less than 7 days, its already installed :thumbup:
> Got the version with DSG paddles, enabled it with vag-com and it works like a charm.


Very very cool!!!!


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## cosmic_beetle (May 25, 2003)

We swapped the wheel. Cleared the airbag light/code but can't get into the steering wheel with vcds iot activate the paddles... Any assistance would be appreciated. 

Tia 

Jess


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## MrRline (Apr 6, 2010)

With my last car I asked if the dealership would install a different steering wheel and they faltly refuse. Would most VW dealerships do the same since your messing with the airbag safety system? Can they deny warranty claims because of this mod?


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## cosmic_beetle (May 25, 2003)

Just to make sure we r in the right area with vcds can u please give me step by step? I know that sounds silly... 

Thanks again


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## cosmic_beetle (May 25, 2003)

I have to ask chad. I believe so. we thought it may have been the APR software (with the Cruise)... that was causing interference.


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## cosmic_beetle (May 25, 2003)

VICTORY!!! I found another VCDS that was more current and it worked great!!! Now, to recode my .:R so that the windows (and sunroof) will open/close with the remote. 

~ Jess


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## JHolmes (May 14, 2010)

I really want a wheel with paddles...


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## cosmic_beetle (May 25, 2003)

dcdubbin202 said:


> I will add "ask what version of VCDS is being used" to the top of my list when someone needs help. I always assume they're running the latest version!
> 
> I'm glad you got it working Jess. Enjoy! Which wheel did you get?


 Mkvi rline. I love it!!! Thanks again for the assist


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## cosmic_beetle (May 25, 2003)

black buttons with aluminum surround. very sexy.


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## JHolmes (May 14, 2010)

dcdubbin202 said:


> Very nice.  I have a newer one coming in soon with black surround and gray stitching. Can't wait. I'll be selling the old one if anybody out there is interested.



^^^ Dibs!


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## wobvintage3 (Jun 10, 2005)

Second Dibs if he doesnt pull the trigger.. plus I am local :beer:


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## ALMASCS (Jul 31, 2010)

*Thats me..ebay seller*

Hey guys,
that me from ebay....im searching for one photo of brown sewing installation wheel...in europe there are so few...anyone can help me?
thanks


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## qhchamp (Sep 24, 2008)

Has anyone experienced a problem with their horn not working after the MK6 wheel swap into a MK5? My horn is not working :banghead:


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## M3Tech (Jan 26, 2007)

I retrofitted the MK6 steering wheel with paddles and grey stitching and code it to 0001811... no paddles, no horn, no buttons functionality. Error shown is that steering control cannot communicate with buttons. Clear error, it clears and then it comes back. No Airbag error, though.

Other than the obvious "bad steering wheel", anything else to try before returning this MFSW? MFSW is supposedly new, it looked brand new, all connectors and plugs were in place, known eBay seller.


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## M3Tech (Jan 26, 2007)

Never mind... one connector was unplugged inside the SW.

Retrofit 100%!


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## M3Tech (Jan 26, 2007)

This is it... 




























:thumbup:


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## gnewveloce (Jun 10, 2010)

I love the aluminum surrounds on the buttons...I wonder if you can get just those...and I just looked-- you can but I can't tell by the diagram if they are black or aluminum


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## M3Tech (Jan 26, 2007)

Those aluminum-look button surrounds only fit that airbag shape and thus this particular wheel, FYI.


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## gnewveloce (Jun 10, 2010)

good to know...thanks.


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## RinoCC (Aug 20, 2010)

Does anyone know of someone in the north jersey area that could install the wheel.


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## LtJGMLD (Aug 27, 2008)

I have a MK6 steering wheel trying to retrofit the original wheel. But, I'm having an issue separating the airbag from the wheel. On the exisiting wheel, I didn't got any trouble taking the airbag off from the wheel. Any thoughts? Does the new wheel has different locking mechanism? Thanks in advance.


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## tumbler_s (Jun 13, 2010)

hi, 

for those of you with the MK6 R-Line steering wheel(piano black version), is it normal for the piano black plastic material to have hairline 'scratches'? just received mine yesterday and noticed a great deal of these scratches......still wondering its normal for the black plastic


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## blue hare (Apr 12, 2004)

The shift buttons work with the DSG but do they work with the auto in the '09? Would the coding be the same?


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## rabbit07 (Feb 22, 2007)

anyone install this steering wheel with manual trans?


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## milan187 (Mar 15, 2009)

rabbit07 said:


> anyone install this steering wheel with manual trans?


One guy did in another thread. I think he is from Montreal. Its even easier because you don't need paddles.


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## M3Tech (Jan 26, 2007)

milan187 said:


> One guy did in another thread. I think he is from Montreal. Its even *cheaper* because you don't need paddles.


Fixed.


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## Scott Evil (Aug 21, 2002)

The clips are similar to the facotry wheel, but do require some time and persistance to get off. Use a small mirror behind the wheel to make sure you are releasing the clips beofre pulling. It is tough to get the airbag off.


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## JHolmes (May 14, 2010)

Out of curiosity, has anyone fitted the Piano Black MFSW? Pics I've found on the interwebs aren't the best..


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## ramjm_2000 (Aug 30, 2004)

*Related question*

Guys, 

A quick question for you guys. Do you see any reason why the stock CC wheel would not work on a B6 with the stock rubber wheel? I just got an 09 CC wheel with airbag and plan on removing the control buttons and replacing them with the inserts. Should bolt right up with the only question being the airbag plug. I have a NMFSW plug now so I should just be able to plug that one in right? If my ECU is not expecting MF Buttons and none are plugged in it should work without VAGCOM work right? Thanks in advance. 

JR


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## wobvintage3 (Jun 10, 2005)

Bringing this back from the dead because I believe I got hosed..

Order an rline steering wheel from the guy in portugal which appears to be the right wheel with dsg paddles.

However I am almost certain he shipped a non MFSW airbag because there doesnt appear to be a connecter/harness for the MFSW controller.. 

Wheel in question: Note the connector on the controller










Airbag in question: Note there is no harness to connect airbag to the MSFW controller.: mad:











Am I missing something or did I truly recieve the incorrect airbag, and is there anything I can do outside of contacting the guy and requesting the appropriate airbag?

Thanks


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## wobvintage3 (Jun 10, 2005)

Help:wave:


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## mymagoo (Oct 9, 2010)

You may want to start a new thread on this. Probably get some responses and needed info..


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## uber drift (Oct 19, 2010)

Veedubin02 said:


> Any reason why you wouldn't just buy the CC R-Line wheel with paddles?


I thought only the Vr6's came with paddles?


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## azwaldo1 (Feb 15, 2011)

blue hare said:


> The shift buttons work with the DSG but do they work with the auto in the '09? Would the coding be the same?


I have the same question, I am considering adding this steering wheel to a 2009 which has a regular auto transmission. There seems to be no information on this. The auto transmission, similar to the DSG allows the driver to select gears when in drive using the auto shift knob. 
I am hoping to add the DSG steering wheel to my car as I used to have a DSG GLI and I miss the paddles!


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## fookerbob (Nov 29, 2005)

wobvintage3 said:


> Bringing this back from the dead because I believe I got hosed..
> 
> Order an rline steering wheel from the guy in portugal which appears to be the right wheel with dsg paddles.
> 
> ...


We had the same issue with that seller, its a wrong harness he will send you another one. Just make sure to tell him that are going to do a charge back.


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## DomozitoLK (Jan 17, 2001)

azwaldo1 said:


> I have the same question, I am considering adding this steering wheel to a 2009 which has a regular auto transmission. There seems to be no information on this. The auto transmission, similar to the DSG allows the driver to select gears when in drive using the auto shift knob.
> I am hoping to add the DSG steering wheel to my car as I used to have a DSG GLI and I miss the paddles!


I don't see why it shouldn't. The 2009 CC (V6 AWD version) had a standard auto with paddle shift wheel. When I installed a paddle shift wheel in my 2010 CC Sport the VCDS coding says enable "tiptronic wheel". I'm sure it functions the same on both trannies.


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## lrluis (Nov 1, 2005)

fookerbob said:


> Like the title states, I am interested in putting in an R-line steering wheel from the R20/Rocco. I have a 2.0T DSG and was wondering if I could add the paddles. I know that the steering wheel is offered with the paddles but will it work on my CC.
> 
> :beer:


Going back to this original question that was posed ... is it possible to retrofit the R20 wheel on a CC without any problems? Has anyone done this?


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## JHolmes (May 14, 2010)

lrluis said:


> Going back to this original question that was posed ... is it possible to retrofit the R20 wheel on a CC without any problems? Has anyone done this?


Yes. Start at the first post in this topic and read to the end... you'll see many posts from those who have done it, including pictures.


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## Scott Evil (Aug 21, 2002)

JHolmes said:


> Yes. Start at the first post in this topic and read to the end... you'll see many posts from those who have done it, including pictures.


Exactly. The MKVI GTI wheel = the Scirocco wheel. They have different badging, but the wheel is the same.


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## lrluis (Nov 1, 2005)

Scott Evil said:


> Exactly. The MKVI GTI wheel = the Scirocco wheel. They have different badging, but the wheel is the same.


Thanks - you answered the dumb follow-up question I almost didnt ask. Haha


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## Scott Evil (Aug 21, 2002)

lrluis said:


> Thanks - you answered the dumb follow-up question I almost didnt ask. Haha


LOL! You are welcome.


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## JHolmes (May 14, 2010)

lrluis said:


> Thanks - you answered the dumb follow-up question I almost didnt ask. Haha


LMAO. Not only is Scott 'evil,' he's psychic as well!


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## savavblue (Sep 2, 2010)

Do you know if you can just order the lower aluminum badge... that doesn't have any logo in it... like yours?


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## Poprocks01 (Mar 29, 2011)

Sorry to dredge up this thread, but once the 2012 GLI (complete with paddle shifters) gets here, will this steering wheel be available in the States? I have nothing against Portugal but I'd rather get it here. 

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/ca...y/2012_volkswagen_jetta_gli_interior_photo_19


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## BETOGLI (Jul 15, 2010)

VW Golf GTI MKVI comes with a single stalk for Cruise Control/Turn signal lights and the VW Passat CC 2012 comes with a single stalk for the turn signals and another one for the turn signal lights, so Aren't the plugs of the harnesses different for both cases? I read the complete thread and noticed that it's a direct swap + VAG COM Coding... But what about these?

Thanks!


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## jspirate (Jan 15, 2011)

BETOGLI said:


> VW Golf GTI MKVI comes with a single stalk for Cruise Control/Turn signal lights and the VW Passat CC 2012 comes with a single stalk for the turn signals and another one for the turn signal lights, so Aren't the plugs of the harnesses different for both cases? I read the complete thread and noticed that it's a direct swap + VAG COM Coding... But what about these?
> 
> Thanks!


The stalks are on the column, not the steering wheel. When I swapped for the Golf R wheel I never touched anything. It was a straight plug and go. No vag-com necessary


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## BETOGLI (Jul 15, 2010)

jspirate said:


> The stalks are on the column, not the steering wheel. When I swapped for the Golf R wheel I never touched anything. It was a straight plug and go. No vag-com necessary


Thanks man! It's great to know this, since when I swapped a MkVI steering wheel to my MKV I did need a column module and a new cruise control/ turn lights stalk.

Did you used the same airbag that came from factory with your car or did you buy a steering wheel with airbag?

Thanks!

Beto


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## jspirate (Jan 15, 2011)

BETOGLI said:


> Thanks man! It's great to know this, since when I swapped a MkVI steering wheel to my MKV I did need a column module and a new cruise control/ turn lights stalk.
> 
> Did you used the same airbag that came from factory with your car or did you buy a steering wheel with airbag?
> 
> ...


The airbag must match the steering wheel. Also, the plug on the bag must match the plug on the car.

DIY for my install


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## BETOGLI (Jul 15, 2010)

jspirate said:


> The airbag must match the steering wheel. Also, the plug on the bag must match the plug on the car.
> 
> DIY for my install


Thanks mate! I asked you about the airbag since I didn't know if the factory airbag would fit in the VW MKVI Steering wheel!

Thanks again,

Beto


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## jspirate (Jan 15, 2011)

BETOGLI said:


> Thanks mate! I asked you about the airbag since I didn't know if the factory airbag would fit in the VW MKVI Steering wheel!
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Beto


NP... the air bags include the outer cosmetic piece of the steering wheel, so each model steering wheel has a different air-bag. Also, if I remember correctly, someone ran into a problem with one of the air-bag plugs not matching the car side of the air-bag plug. I can't remember what steering wheel and what car though.


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## BETOGLI (Jul 15, 2010)

jspirate said:


> NP... the air bags include the outer cosmetic piece of the steering wheel, so each model steering wheel has a different air-bag. Also, if I remember correctly, someone ran into a problem with one of the air-bag plugs not matching the car side of the air-bag plug. I can't remember what steering wheel and what car though.


Thanks man! And what an amazing DYI!


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## OnlineAlias (Apr 16, 2011)

BETOGLI said:


> Thanks man! And what an amazing DYI!


I just noticed the DIY was missing something (its a great DIY, no doubt). Remember to mark your steering wheel nut with one black line for every time it is torqued and removed. The nut is to be used only 3 times.

I have the Euro code CC R-line wheel with the paddles and I absolutely love it. It is a fantastic upgrade. I never drive the car in automatic mode anymore. Ever.


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## jspirate (Jan 15, 2011)

OnlineAlias said:


> I just noticed the DIY was missing something (its a great DIY, no doubt). Remember to mark your steering wheel nut with one black line for every time it is torqued and removed. The nut is to be used only 3 times.
> 
> I have the Euro code CC R-line wheel with the paddles and I absolutely love it. It is a fantastic upgrade. I never drive the car in automatic mode anymore. Ever.



Its there. Its in Step 4 



jspirate said:


> *Step 4: Physically Removing the CC's Steering Wheel*
> Use a triple-square driver (12mm) to remove the steering wheel bolt. Use a sharpie to mark the bolt since it can only be used 3 times. A steering wheel puller is not needed.


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## jkeith72 (Feb 14, 2011)

So does a euro Scirocco R- line wheel/dsg, with no airbag, new, from us seller with 100 feedback score for 518 shipped sound like a decent deal? Assuming I can use my airbag... 

He has a few left. All new. Silver trim, multifunction, and black stitching as well. Just wondering if it's a decent deal, given it may be a safer buy. 

Should I buy? Or wait for less expensive. 

Thanks in advance!


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## jspirate (Jan 15, 2011)

jkeith72 said:


> So does a euro Scirocco R- line wheel/dsg, with no airbag, new, from us seller with 100 feedback score for 518 shipped sound like a decent deal? Assuming I can use my airbag...
> 
> He has a few left. All new. Silver trim, multifunction, and black stitching as well. Just wondering if it's a decent deal, given it may be a safer buy.
> 
> ...


 The CC airbag will not work on the Scirocco wheel.


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## RudydG (Jan 15, 2012)

jkeith72 said:


> So does a euro Scirocco R- line wheel/dsg, with no airbag, new, from us seller with 100 feedback score for 518 shipped sound like a decent deal? Assuming I can use my airbag...
> 
> He has a few left. All new. Silver trim, multifunction, and black stitching as well. Just wondering if it's a decent deal, given it may be a safer buy.
> 
> ...


 You need the proper airbag. The CC airbag does NOT fit the Scirocco's wheel. 
Buy them together, and ask the seller that they match. 
Problem is that airbag's can't be air-shipped, they are explosives....


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## jkeith72 (Feb 14, 2011)

jspirate said:


> The CC airbag will not work on the Scirocco wheel.


 That just blows. Thanks for the heads up guys.


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## jkeith72 (Feb 14, 2011)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-MK5-MK6-...Parts_Accessories&hash=item43ae012a41&vxp=mtr 

This is the wheel in question...I really want one, the more I read and see pics of installed wheels.


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## DavidPaul (Nov 28, 2009)

jkeith72 said:


> http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-MK5-MK6-...Parts_Accessories&hash=item43ae012a41&vxp=mtr
> 
> This is the wheel in question...I really want one, the more I read and see pics of installed wheels.


 Go ahead and spring for the proper air bag. Keep in mind that overall, this project will not cost a lot of money in the long run. 

Save your OEM wheel and bag. When it's time to trade, put the OEM back on and you will be able to sell the new wheel and bag. 

Of course you will lose some money but not all that much. Everyone will get a good deal, you as the user and eventually, the next owner. 

Just take good care of the wheel during your ownership. 

Most add ons with the exceptions of Nav, Steering Wheel, Custom Tire and Wheels and perhaps some others, are a total loss for the owner. 

If you want it that bad, find a way. They guy only has 4 left. 

I love that steering wheel and wish I could afford to do it for my Eos.


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## DavidPaul (Nov 28, 2009)

Judith271 said:


> Any reason why you wouldn't just buy the CC R-Line wheel with paddles?


 If my memory serves me correctly, the U.S. spec CC R-Line wheel does not have the flat bottom.


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## RudydG (Jan 15, 2012)

rabbit07 said:


> anyone install this steering wheel with manual trans?


 Yes, i did. 
MFA + manual gearbox.


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